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Doh! The XL Is A High Theft Risk!!!

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The vast majority of vehicles being stolen these days still have "old fashioned" key ignitions, such as Kias and Hyundais being grabbed in D.C. and Baltimore, etc. You just force it with screwdriver and wrench, as opposed to trying to defeat an electronic fob.

I'm gonna start putting my "Truck Club", left over from my 1995 F-150 on my Mav (not even locking it) as a deterrent, even parking at Walmart for 20 minutes. It is in our RV right now.

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And the response by many of these city governments isn't to get tough on crime, but to sue Kia and Hyundai LOL
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The vast majority of vehicles being stolen these days still have "old fashioned" key ignitions, such as Kias and Hyundais being grabbed in D.C. and Baltimore, etc. You just force it with screwdriver and wrench, as opposed to trying to defeat an electronic fob.

I'm gonna start putting my "Truck Club", left over from my 1995 F-150 on my Mav (not even locking it) as a deterrent, even parking at Walmart for 20 minutes. It is in our RV right now.

Makes me think the tugs have a way of getting around the club . Yes is better than nothing. I'm going to install dash cams that store to your phone or cloud. Maybe can catch them. Good luck . I hate what the world has come to this.move out go off grid it's just is not worth it no more. Just my 2 cents .
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Makes me think the tugs have a way of getting around the club . Yes is better than nothing
Yes, one can hacksaw the steering wheel, but I doubt one in a Walmart parking lot wouldn't be passed by to avoid the extra time and equipment involved.
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Makes me think the tugs have a way of getting around the club . Yes is better than nothing. I'm going to install dash cams that store to your phone or cloud. Maybe can catch them. Good luck . I hate what the world has come to this.move out go off grid it's just is not worth it no more. Just my 2 cents .
they're pretty sneaky, they'd likely just notice the dash cam, approach the truck from the side, throw a towel or something in front of it to obscure the lens and then do their dirty deed...
they're pretty sneaky, they'd likely just notice the dash cam, approach the truck from the side, throw a towel or something in front of it to obscure the lens and then do their dirty deed...
But they can break in, and drive off w/o ever being on camera as it faces forward.
My Jeep has a remote control relay module that disengages the starter and/or fuel pump (can't remember exactly) so that even if they get in and try hot wiring it, it just won't start. If there's ever a malfunction, all I have to do is replace the relay with a normal one. It's all plug & play.
My Jeep has a remote control relay module that disengages the starter and/or fuel pump (can't remember exactly) so that even if they get in and try hot wiring it, it just won't start. If there's ever a malfunction, all I have to do is replace the relay with a normal one. It's all plug & play.
But if someone forces a screwdriver in key slot and turns it with a wrench, the system won't know the difference.
The remote controlled relay won't allow power to flow to the fuel pump unless the remote control activates the relay first. Until it does, the relay acts like a broken relay, gas doesn't flow, and the car doesn't start or run for very long (assuming there's residual fuel in the system). Thieves can beat the system by replacing the remote activated relay with a normal relay, but that assumes they know it's a relay issue, that they know which one needs to be replaced, and that they so happen to be carrying the exact relay they need on them.
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The remote controlled relay won't allow power to flow to the fuel pump unless the remote control activates the relay first. Until it does, the relay acts like a broken relay, gas doesn't flow, and the car doesn't start or run for very long (assuming there's residual fuel in the system). Thieves can beat the system by replacing the remote activated relay with a normal relay, but that assumes they know it's a relay issue, that they know which one needs to be replaced, and that they so happen to be carrying the exact relay they need on them.
Ah, an extra step before you do normal starting.

The Club seems easier. Plus, if you park with steering turned all the way one way, they cannot even tow steal it w/o starting engine.
Many years ago, I owned a brand new Yugo. I used ‘The Club’ in a Walmart parking lot. When I came out, I discovered someone had stolen ‘The Club’ and left the car.
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Many years ago, I owned a brand new Yugo. I used ‘The Club’ in a Walmart parking lot. When I came out, I discovered someone had stolen ‘The Club’ and left the car.
Obviously a prank! The steering wheel was probably cardboard. Was a Club on it your prank? :ROFLMAO:
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Obviously a prank! The steering wheel was probably cardboard. Was a Club on it your prank? :ROFLMAO:
You didn’t actually believe that, did you? 😄😄
Makes me think the tugs have a way of getting around the club . Yes is better than nothing. I'm going to install dash cams that store to your phone or cloud. Maybe can catch them. Good luck . I hate what the world has come to this.move out go off grid it's just is not worth it no more. Just my 2 cents .
Takes about 30 seconds to cut off a club, cordless saw cuts your steering wheel
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The vast majority of vehicles being stolen these days still have "old fashioned" key ignitions, such as Kias and Hyundais being grabbed in D.C. and Baltimore, etc. You just force it with screwdriver and wrench, as opposed to trying to defeat an electronic fob.

I'm gonna start putting my "Truck Club", left over from my 1995 F-150 on my Mav (not even locking it) as a deterrent, even parking at Walmart for 20 minutes. It is in our RV right now.

Takes 30 seconds to cut steering wheel with cordless saw
Takes 30 seconds to cut steering wheel with cordless saw
Was thinking. I us the app to remote start. So if it is stolen why can't I shut off the engine via satellite. And seems if you can start and stop it why can't you track it allso?
Was thinking. I us the app to remote start. So if it is stolen why can't I shut off the engine via satellite. And seems if you can start and stop it why can't you track it allso?
It tracks, but only after the truck has been shut down. Like after it reached its destination. It doesn't track live. At least, that's how it is with my Lariat.

I wonder about the remote start feature. Not sure you can shut it off, but if you can activate remote start, theoretically, the truck then needs the fob to continue operating, othetwise it automatically shuts down. I think.
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Ah, an extra step before you do normal starting.

The Club seems easier. Plus, if you park with steering turned all the way one way, they cannot even tow steal it w/o starting engine.
The extra step is literally pushing a button on a fob. If they are so determined to steal your truck that they will take the time to tow it, they are gonna get your truck no matter what.
I guess this thread Title should have included XLT too.
The vast majority of vehicles being stolen these days still have "old fashioned" key ignitions, such as Kias and Hyundais being grabbed in D.C. and Baltimore, etc. You just force it with screwdriver and wrench, as opposed to trying to defeat an electronic fob.

I'm gonna start putting my "Truck Club", left over from my 1995 F-150 on my Mav (not even locking it) as a deterrent, even parking at Walmart for 20 minutes. It is in our RV right now.

I might not be following this thread properly, or don't know enough about the XL. I have the 2022 XLT, and it came standard with the SecuriLock system, which is Ford's passive anti-theft (or, immobilizer). It's the same system my wife has on her Bronco w/Sport keyless start. It isn't the presence or absence of the key that is the issue, it's the software in the FOB that is programmed with a vehicle specific code that is important. When trying to start the engine, if you don't have a FOB that presents the correct code to the immobilizer control unit, then the vehicle won't start. My 2007 Volvo had it - which is why I went years with only a single key. Lost one, and Volvo wanted almost $500 to flash the proper code onto a new fob.

The Maverick fob isn't just for opening doors, sounding alarms or disabling the immobilizer. I have looked into this much as I don't think I have the need, but there is a physical key receiver in the center console of Mav's that have keys, and purportedly you can 'program' various restrictions to a specific key, such as hours of use or whatever you'd want to impose on your snotty kids. All controlled by the chip and firmware in the fob and one of the Mav's onboard systems.

The Kia issue is simply that they were too cheap to set the immobilizer on cheaper vehicles by default. They wanted you to pay for it. Now with the backlash, they're flashing the fobs for free
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