Yeah, check under.... I only have 9 of the 15 bolts left holding that shield on. It wasn't worth the argument so I ordered them from amazon..
From now on my old, retired ass will change my own oil ... incompetent bastards.

 

Took my trucklet to a dealer for my truck's first oil change at 10k miles. (Yeah, yeah, I know. Shut up!) Sure it cost about $130

This is WHY I opted for the three free services (apparently worth $130 X 3 = $390) vs the 42,000 FordPass points worth only $210. Plus, by the time I have my 3rd free service in 2026, the cost could be well over $130!!!

 

Well, my dealer didn't offer 3 free services to me. (Which is fine; I would never give them business again for anything.) Maybe he was too busy refusing to honor my private offer to remember to offer me free stuff?

I got good front & rear form-fitted mats and splash guards, all which go a long ways to help physically protect the truck. I'm fine with what I got with the 42k points. If I really wanted free oil change service, I could always sign up for the different point reward sources and collect them that way.

 

First I can’t believe you let your first change go that long. Mine get the first change at 500-1k most break in and wear happens then. Not that I think it’s a huge deal but I’m very picky as I need mine to last at least 300k.
My dealer give first 3 changes for free with new purchase. Bad part is you need to schedule like two weeks in advance. So I end up doing them on my own anyhow.

 

First I can’t believe you let your first change go that long. Mine get the first change at 500-1k most break in and wear happens then. Not that I think it’s a huge deal but I’m very picky as I need mine to last at least 300k.
My dealer give first 3 changes for free with new purchase. Bad part is you need to schedule like two weeks in advance. So I end up doing them on my own anyhow.

When in doubt - CHECK YOUR MANUAL!!! It says when your oil life meter approaches zero (0), schedule an appt. for an oil change. I'll schedule mine probably at 3%.

I am currently at 7,077 miles, and my FordPass says I have 31% oil life left, which extrapolates to 10,257 miles when it reaches 0%.

 

Yes most understand that. Not sure if you understand that’s what I meant by the bypass. The only bypass is in the filter.
Ford does not drain the breaking fluid then add new. They fill and ship. Hence all break in lines and oil is what you get. That’s why I like to replace it. You certainly don’t but why not.
This is actually the only forum I’m on that people don’t. Pretty generally accepted across most car enthusiasts to change early the first one.

 

Pretty generally accepted across most car enthusiasts to change early the first one.

I understand that, but it is just a hangover idea from back in the days before machining greatly improved, and when Manuals specifically specified oil change at 600 or 1,000 miles.

I remember in 1969 we got a brand new car in May, and were planning on moving to west coast Canada from Chicago area that summer, so mom took us regularly on drives to nowhere, just to break in the car and have 1st oil change before trip. Long ago times!

Hell, our 1998 Jetta TDI turbodiesel (which was back in the dirty, high sulfur diesel fuel days) had its very 1st oil change at 10,000 miles, but soon afterwards, through oil analysis, I determined changing at every 20,000 miles was just fine. My son still drives it at about 300,000 miles! It is just now starting to burn a little oil.

 

I do understand that but you are comparing two completely different motors. First oil changes I do early as a personal preference.
Then I run full length oil changes. Even did the 15k mile ones on my first ecoboost with amsoil. But fuel dilution has become such a problem for chains I started doing when the oil life monitor says to.
I’ve done black stone test and the first oil change samples at 1000k or less come back with more in them then the following ones with 10-15k on them. Does that mean anything much. Maybe not if the filter is getting it all without filling up. Which is more likely the case. But it’s cheap piece of mind and all my ecoboosts have been trouble free with well over 300k on all of them. I’m not nice to them at all so I do need to take extra care of them. I push them very hard a lot.

 

Took my hybrid First Edition to Beach Ford for it’s first oil change, got full synthetic, had my tires rotated, windshield wipers replaced, all fluids checked and filled AND they detailed it for ZERO DOLLARS. They really give red carpet service. I love my dealership. When they did the side airbag recall they did it perfect and cleaned the car.

 

Not all are that good. My airbag recall service on the way home after crossing railroad tracks at 20 mph.

 

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Just curious. How long are you guys going to argue about when to change your oil? Is it that important to be right? I don’t care if someone changes their oil every 100 miles, or every 500,000 miles. Let them do it their way, and I’ll do it my way. Too much effort trying to convince someone who’s right. You’ll probably never “win” anyway. LMAO

 

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Just curious. How long are you guys going to argue about when to change your oil? Is it that important to be right? I don’t care if someone changes their oil every 100 miles, or every 500,000 miles. Let them do it their way, and I’ll do it my way. Too much effort trying to convince someone who’s right. You’ll probably never “win” anyway. LMAO

But if I can help someone save time and money, and help the environment to boot, I will try! 😁

 

Ok
You “win”

 

As long as it takes. It’s called a good debate. At the end of the day yes it’s up to each person to decide. Same with what oil.
Just imagine a forum with your standards. Someone would ask a question, say which oil Then people would list what they like and no debate or back and forth. How much does that help? Same with this. Points and counter points are made and that helps each person make a more informed decision. Go look at the catch can thread. If it was just a yes do it and a few no not needed without any back and forth of why. Nobody gets informed or learns.
On top of that who wants to come to a forum that is dead after 6 months. That’s about what it take to ask almost all questions one would have. Then you better not ask it again or you get the use the search answer. A lot of this is just because people enjoy the interaction of a community.

 

My father is a retired Ford Engineer having worked there for 41 years. He was always a big proponent of not worrying about oil changes at the exact interval. He showed me study Ford did of oil performance in diesel engines that he worked on/co-authored where the oil performance actually improved after 25,000 miles of use. So we did not follow the intervals and drove many many beaters growing up and did not have any oil-related issues with our cars. Most of our issues were just due to age (tie rods, ball joints, etc.) and rust. I change my oil 1x a year, regardless of miles. Usually that is 15k miles. I haven't had any issues with it.

Additionally, he worked in warranty for Ford relating to oil and mentioned that oil filters going into bypass mode (where the filter is so clogged that it no longer runs the oil through the filter) is extremely rare and has only seen it a few times.

Finally, he mentioned that with all the advances in oil technology that modern oils last so much longer than older oil.

 

Additionally, he worked in warranty for Ford relating to oil and mentioned that oil filters going into bypass mode (where the filter is so clogged that it no longer runs the oil through the filter) is extremely rare and has only seen it a few times.

And even then, it is not the end of the world! Lots of engines do not even have an oil filter. I saw a You Tube video of someone with a very old riding lawn mower, that he NEVER changed the oil.

 

My father is a retired Ford Engineer having worked there for 41 years. He was always a big proponent of not worrying about oil changes at the exact interval. He showed me study Ford did of oil performance in diesel engines that he worked on/co-authored where the oil performance actually improved after 25,000 miles of use. So we did not follow the intervals and drove many many beaters growing up and did not have any oil-related issues with our cars. Most of our issues were just due to age (tie rods, ball joints, etc.) and rust. I change my oil 1x a year, regardless of miles. Usually that is 15k miles. I haven't had any issues with it. Additionally, he worked in warranty for Ford relating to oil and mentioned that oil filters going into bypass mode (where the filter is so clogged that it no longer runs the oil through the filter) is extremely rare and has only seen it a few times. Finally, he mentioned that with all the advances in oil technology that modern oils last so much longer than older oil.

Viscosity of oil breaks down quickly. I change oil and filter every 3500 miles. I’ve had cars go over 300,000miles especially on a 70 pontiac lemans, engine was torn down and looked brand new. Nothing had built up as sludge. I’ll keep doing it. Engines get very hot, breaks oil down very quickly. Worked with a guy that never changed his oil, at 60,000 it went really bad, rings gave up. He said, “I’d rather trade for a new truck than change the oil”! True story.

 

Viscosity of oil breaks down quickly.

NOT high quality oil! I extended the nominal (for non-synthetic oil) 20,000 mile change in my Volvo big rig truck change to 130,000 miles, using periodic oil analysis and HIGH quality 5W-40 Mobile One Synthetic Oil I got from Walmart. I saved a buttload of time and money! Said truck was purchased with 500,000 miles, and I sold it at over 1,000,000 miles.