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Hyundai: "Ford Maverick Doesn't Stand a Chance" Against the Santa Cruz

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I think we all can agree that Hyundai is trying too hard to promote the Santa Cruz.

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Buy American...buy Maverick!
 
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Dhu7355 said:
Promote all they want. Without a hybrid model there’s no comparison.
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Supersonic said:
You didn’t give Ford a $1000 deposit, they did not require one to order, you gave Blah Blah Blah dealership one and didn’t need to.
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And it's refundable.
 
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nwcali70 said:
If I knew then what I know now I'd not have given Ford $1,000 down on a maverick. At this point a auto maker who values quality will soon follow with a hybrid AWD truck that has quality, and that will be Fords legacy.
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So, get your $1,000 back and move on, Knowing what you know now -
 
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Richard Daugird said:
Buy American...buy Maverick!
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The Maverick is built in Mexico by Mexican workers using mostly Mexican parts which benefits the Mexican economy. 26% of its parts come from the US and Canada. The 2.0L EB engine is made in Spain.

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The Santa Cruz and Ridgeline are built in the US by US workers which benefits the US economy. 53% of the Santa Cruz's parts come from the US and Canada and its engine and transmission are made in the US. 75% of the Ridgeline's parts are US/Canadian-sourced and its engine and transmission are made in the US as well.

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The Ridgeline is actually more American than any other vehicle with an open bed sold in the US - even more so than the Ranger and F-150.

So, be very careful when you shout "buy American!" It might not have the intended effect. :)
 
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I bought a Maverick because Ford has been building vehicles at that plant for a very long time, and if the fine people of Hermosillo can find good paying jobs there, build their own thriving communities, keep drug cartels and coyotes from victimizing them and keep them from feeling the need to leave their own country to come here, all provided by an American company because they want to take advantage of a tax/labor loophole, then I'm all for that.
Yes, I'm sure they could be paid more, but they really need to talk to their govt. about that. like if we disagree about Honda or Hyundai or whomever building here simply to avoid tariffs whilst taking corporate profits back home is a thing to worry about or not. All we can really do is buy this product or that, and vote. One being more effective than the other.
 
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I first reserved a Ford Bronco Base 2-door Oxford White(changed to Eruption Green) Sasquatch PK, v-6, auto, tow pk, and aux light pk. 41k in July 2020. I have yet to get it. I got a Ford e-mail last week that it will be a '23, now. During the wait time, the Santa Cruz and the Maverick came out and I was impressed with both. I at first liked the santa Cruz for it's style. I saw a Limited a year ago I think driving in Ft. Myers early morning while I was going to work. I really liked the lights. I put a reserve order for one. The next month I put a reserve order in for a Maverick. I saw the DRAB interior of the Santa Cruz and ALL the shiney Black plastic Urgh. I called Hyundai and told them I wanted my reserve back. They politely asked me why. I told them that after I saw MANY Mavericks off road and many Santa Cruz off road, on Youtube plus that SHINEY Black plastic in the interior was not a great idea for someone who has dogs (pets) they haul. The Hyundai spokes person said thank you. My reservation would be in my back in seven days, it was. The Hyundai spokesman also explained to me why they are asking people why they choose to back away. She said they are seriously wanting to make the Santa Cruz appeal to lots of people. All feed back is going directly to corporate. But i couldn't be happier with my Maverick Lariat FX/4. I love the color of the interior, and the seats. Hardly DRAB. The more I have the Maverick, the more I like style of it. 26.5 mpg all wheel drive!!!! It's a winner! Good luck to you all I hope your Mavericks get to you soon. I know the feeling having to wait. I can't wait to see the Bronco, after this Maverick. BTW I traded my 2018 Challenger in for the Maverick, don't miss it. I thought I would.
 
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DanielFromCA said:
meh. nice try.
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nwcali70 said:
If I knew then what I know now I'd not have given Ford $1,000 down on a maverick. At this point a auto maker who values quality will soon follow with a hybrid AWD truck that has quality, and that will be Fords legacy.
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nwcali70 said:
the argument you make helps the people who ordered in June how? Its NOT the dealer choosing which vehicles are built first, but Ford says "dealer allocations". If Ford refuses to cover warranty items (say hot cats from bad programing) or drags their feet they can say "dealer fault". If its YOUR car that burns/is broke does it matter?
I chose to see them as one cause they act as one to screw people over. Not sure how a moral person could see it different. I've come to believe some people on here probably work for Ford (dealers included!!!).
As far as the person who owns 8, well, I doubt the people you pay to drive will complain about the seats going bad quick. But they sure might want some compensation if they drive them home and it burns the house down, I hope your up for paying.
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the argument you make helps the people who ordered in June how? Its NOT the dealer choosing which vehicles are built first, but Ford says "dealer allocations". If Ford refuses to cover warranty items (say hot cats from bad programing) or drags their feet they can say "dealer fault". If its YOUR car that burns/is broke does it matter?
I chose to see them as one cause they act as one to screw people over. Not sure how a moral person could see it different. I've come to believe some people on here probably work for Ford (dealers included!!!).
As far as the person who owns 8, well, I doubt the people you pay to drive will complain about the seats going bad quick. But they sure might want some compensation if they drive them home and it burns the house down, I hope your up for paying.
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Good luck with your santa cruz. Hyudai has such a Stellar reputation.....ROFLMAO
 
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MaverickMax said:
Hyudai has such a Stellar reputation.....ROFLMAO
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According to Consumer Reports, Hyundai as a brand is more reliable than Ford.
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According to J.D. Power, Hyundai has fewer problems during the first 90 days per ownership than Ford.
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Also According to J.D. Power, Hyundai has fewer problems during the second year of ownership than Ford.
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zroger73 said:
According to Consumer Reports, Hyundai as a brand is more reliable than Ford.
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According to J.D. Power, Hyundai has fewer problems during the first 90 days per ownership than Ford.
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Also According to J.D. Power, Hyundai has fewer problems during the second year of ownership than Ford.
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According to Consumer Reports, Hyundai as a brand is more reliable than Ford.
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According to J.D. Power, Hyundai has fewer problems during the first 90 days per ownership than Ford.
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Also According to J.D. Power, Hyundai has fewer problems during the second year of ownership than Ford.
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JDPower just does surveys which they collect from persons who send back data. Buick as #2, is questionable.
 
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Don't put much faith in those stats. A problem requiring a visit to a dealer could be anything from a minor infotainment glitch to a transmission failure.
 
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Sure - a radio that doesn't play isn't as bad as an air conditioner that won't cool which isn't as bad as an engine that won't start which isn't as bad as a vehicle catching fire and burning your house to the ground, but a faulty radio or knocking engine presents the same inconvenience to the owner.
 
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There are over 4K members here and I would guess quite a few Mavericks in circulation so far. Vehicle problems have a tendency to show up on forums long before anywhere else. Manufacturers often have good models, troublesome ones and junk. Ford has been a prime example of this. Plan on buying a Maverick sometime in the near future and this forum among others will have a big impact on if I buy one. Also have a good friend who is a Ford tech that I can count on for advice. The Maverick appears to be relatively trouble free so far. Promising!
 
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Willie said:
There are over 4K members here and I would guess quite a few Mavericks in circulation so far. Vehicle problems have a tendency to show up on forums long before anywhere else. Manufacturers often have good models, troublesome ones and junk. Ford has been a prime example of this. Plan on buying a Maverick sometime in the near future and this forum among others will have a big impact on if I buy one. Also have a good friend who is a Ford tech that I can count on for advice. The Maverick appears to be relatively trouble free so far. Promising!
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The thing is vehicles have gotten SO complicated. You, I, your average guy cannot work on them anymore. I will not. First is, people must understand that new vehicles ARE dependent on MAINTENANCE! Do not drive your vehicle beyond required maintenance intervals. Your vehicle will last longer. Keep it clean, and protected as much as possible. Every car company has vehicle problems, some more than others. With Forums like these, the word gets out if there is real STINKER vehicle, and how the manufacturer replies. That is why I joined here. Good luck to all.
 
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The whole SC vs Maverick debate shouldn't be confused with Ford vs Hyunida. Both car companies have made great vehicles and cars that are/were absolutely appalling (i.e. Elantra Touring or Ford Freestyle). The argument is does the SC actually beat the Maverick every time? Nope! Just looking at numbers the Santa Cruz loses in Gas Mileage, Base MSRP, Bed Length and Legroom. For me Gas Mileage, MSRP & Bed Length are far more important than pulling 5,000 lbs or having a Hyundai interior.
 
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VonnVary said:
The whole SC vs Maverick debate shouldn't be confused with Ford vs Hyunida. Both car companies have made great vehicles and cars that are/were absolutely appalling (i.e. Elantra Touring or Ford Freestyle). The argument is does the SC actually beat the Maverick every time? Nope! Just looking at numbers the Santa Cruz loses in Gas Mileage, Base MSRP, Bed Length and Legroom. For me Gas Mileage, MSRP & Bed Length are far more important than pulling 5,000 lbs or having a Hyundai interior.
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I reserved a Santa Cruz the same day I did a Maverick. The Santa Cruz came in the second week of Dec. It was a SEL AWD, with options. 42K. Sorry. Nope. The interior was dark and all the glossy plastic trim. Not a good idea with pets! Yeah it probably looked better than the Maverick interior. But i want to take my dogs, and throw stuff into it. The SC would be tore up with in minutes. I alos saw the SC against the Maverick in off road stuff....watched the Honda Ridgeline too die! Watched the Bronco Sport Badlands! It is [email protected]! But the Maverick BEAT both the Ridgeline and the SC. I love my Maverick. I can't wait to take it off road. At first I liked the SC looks. Now Ilike the Maverick looks better, I see why. Truck like. I have had my thirty pond pups in the Truck, they haven't scratched the interior yet! I made the right choice.
 
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nwcali70 said:
Given that I had two options (tow pintel/CP360) and my Mav is limited to 2,000 pounds towing and quality is for sure well below the Cruz I can't argue with them at all on those points.

Ford told me if I want a Maverick, give up the CP360, which is a big blow to me buying it.

and by now if you think Ford put quality #1, or 2, or 3, you've not paid attention. First part of quality is getting you the car to begin with..which is why the June orders being put back of the bus was idiotic.
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I’m curious why someone told you to give up the CP360. I got my Mav in January and at the time of ordering (last summer) I had both the tow package and CP360. I’m more than satisfied and my only regret is not getting AWD. (But I kept my 2013 Ridgeline for dump runs, etc.) Thanks for any insight you have.
 
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I’m curious why someone told you to give up the CP360. I got my Mav in January and at the time of ordering (last summer) I had both the tow package and CP360. I’m more than satisfied and my only regret is not getting AWD. (But I kept my 2013 Ridgeline for dump runs, etc.) Thanks for any insight you have.
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I am curious about that also, like you my order had the 4k tow, CP360, but with AWD, Lux package and roll up tonneau and was delivered in February with no prolems with constraint issues. Could it have been dealer allocation issue?
 
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I have a 22 SC. It is really nice, comfortable, lots of storage. The 2.5T has gobs of power. We took a 3500 mile trip in it and I liked it better than my 2020 F150.

I paid too much.

I don't like the software and I don't think it handles well on curves.

When my Maverick comes in, we will decide to keep or sell the SC.
 
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Ridgeline, if you like driving obese vehicles.
 
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