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There’s a lot more about this truck then it’s appearance .
Like who makes the electric motors , does it have stainless steel brake lines or a stainless steel exhaust system. Is it fully undercoated or just undercoated at the wheel wells . What has Ford done to help the maverick survive in the states ,that are in the rust belt .
 

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Ok and what do we know about the engine & trans . Are they easy for DIY to do their own maintenance ?
 

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Ok and what do we know about the engine & trans . Are they easy for DIY to do their own maintenance ?
There's no way to know since the Escape and Maverick may not be identical engine bay wise for oil, oil filter, air filter, and plugs.
 

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Well there’s people posting pics of the Maverick on roads and in parking lots . We need to get some under the hood pictures with the plastic engine cover off . And maybe get one up on a lift for a few more pictures . It’s more important to me to know how well it’s made . Then how much prettier my color is then yours .
 

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Well there’s people posting pics of the Maverick on roads and in parking lots . We need to get some under the hood pictures with the plastic engine cover off . And maybe get one up on a lift for a few more pictures . It’s more important to me to know how well it’s made . Then how much prettier my color is then your
Well I don't plan to did any maitenance on the Maverick myself. i want that warranty. I have my '70 Montego to tinker with, when I wanna look, and work under the hood. The engine bays, now are so complicated with electronics.....I will not touch anything. Of course I'm not a certified auto mechanic...so there you go. I have looked under the hood of my '18 Challenger twice. it will go for it's 6th oil change soon. It has just turned over 11000 miles. It still smells new. I t has lived in the garage since it was purchased. It will stay there. The Maverick will be treated the same. (it's not fun working on newer cars) (at least to me) (to many cables tubes, plugs) Plus ZERO room to do so. Everything is modular, plastic, click on, or push in....just not fun to me.
 

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There’s a lot more about this truck then it’s appearance .
Like who makes the electric motors , does it have stainless steel brake lines or a stainless steel exhaust system. Is it fully undercoated or just undercoated at the wheel wells . What has Ford done to help the maverick survive in the states ,that are in the rust belt .
..as far as that electric motor... Ford was a pioneer on those. I haven't seen any production video's of the Maverick in being built in Mexico. I have seen the entire production vid of the Santa Fe being built in Alabama. THAT is a huge plus to me. That video is amazing ...to say the least. Everyone should see it. I never thought we would be able to have robots put seats in vehicles... I was WRONG! I have to admit I'm very impressed with the Santa Cruz. We will see. I just saw Grandpa.....(GM) just decided to get into the compact truck fray. It's hillairious that phat frumpy old man Company thinks it can compete......Those Silverado interiors, and huge slab exterior sides.....STYLE??????? Nowhere. I drive a new Colorda WT for my company.....not impressed at all. Hard to see out of. I hate the BED! I do like the extended cab. GM only makes the smal block that is any good. (roots back to the '50's) The bean counters destroyed that company years ago. This coming from what was a die hard CHEVROLET MAN. Grandpa, erg GM>>>>>> News to YOU >>> Don't tell your new vehicles customers they have to LIVE that junk your produced and WON'T fix. THAT is the WRONG answer! DUH Grandpa(GM) you would have to pay me to drive a GRANDPA vehicle from you, like my company does....LOL!
 

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Well I don't plan to did any maitenance on the Maverick myself. i want that warranty.
There's still basic ICE maintenance that is so simple there's no reason not to do it yourself, and you don't generally need to be a mechanic to change your oil, oil filter, air filter, and spark plugs and the like and dealerships can be expensive with Walmart guys being a crapshoot on whether or not they will screw up your vehicle since they are often minimum wage with limited work experience and most importantly don't really care. Even if you do have someone else do it, knowing if its well thought-out design can help you know how expensive maintenance will be, so you don't end up in a scenario like with the BMW V12s where a leaking gasket can cost you $16K in labor since the whole engine and transmission has to come out and the engine half disassembled just to work on the damn thing!

The Escape hybrid I can say looks like a PITA to work on for oil/filter changes, just because they put a big aero-shield under the vehicle that requires removal of numerous screws to get to before you have access to the drain plug and oil filter. The easiest vehicle we have to work on so far is a Mercedes GLA where since I use a vacuum pump for the oil out of the dipstick and the oil filter is on top of instead of underneath the engine, you can change the oil in minutes without driving on ramps or jacking up the vehicle. But if you want to see a truly user-friendly experience engine bay when it comes to self-servicing look at the Subaru Crosstrek, it has an inverted oil filter on the bottom right corner:
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The only problem is that because its a boxer engine unlike an inline four, simple spark plug changes are going to be a huge PITA, where even if you aren't doing it yourself you still have to pay someone more labor hours for something that should only take 10 mins otherwise.

We'll need something like this that is for the Escape to be done for the Maverick. I have to say some of the choices here make future maintenance far more labor intensive than it should be:

I also didn't realize that the 8-speed they are using is the dreaded craptastic GM 9T automatic developed from GM in their partnership as pointed out by the reviewer in the video (already leaking too on that brand new vehicle), modified by Ford to remove fourth gear since they found that the extra gear provided no extra economy. In doing so, per the following link its actually acting as a 7-speed in most conditions, and seems a bit "ghetto-rigged" to make it work more like their superior 10-speed: The New Ford 8F35 8-speed Transmission

Too bad its not the actual 10-speed automatic that Ford developed in-house, which is a much better transmission.

Knowing that, its another reason that I'm attracted more to the hybrid over the ecoboost.
 

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There’s a lot more about this truck then it’s appearance .
Like who makes the electric motors , does it have stainless steel brake lines or a stainless steel exhaust system. Is it fully undercoated or just undercoated at the wheel wells . What has Ford done to help the maverick survive in the states ,that are in the rust belt .
excellent questions….and most of us would like those answers to your questions.
 

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Ford generally uses a mild stainless for exhaust piping that'll surface rust at worst. However flanges, welds, hangars, clamps, and manifolds (although catalytic manifolds tend to be mostly stainless) are typically regular carbon steel so those tend to be the points that will rust through on them if you're in someplace that uses road salt. Should hold up for 10 years and the only vehicles I've encountered that really failed much earlier had considerable running hours particularly idling as ex-police security vehicles.
 

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..as far as that electric motor... Ford was a pioneer on those. I haven't seen any production video's of the Maverick in being built in Mexico. I have seen the entire production vid of the Santa Fe being built in Alabama. THAT is a huge plus to me. That video is amazing ...to say the least. Everyone should see it. I never thought we would be able to have robots put seats in vehicles... I was WRONG! I have to admit I'm very impressed with the Santa Cruz. We will see. I just saw Grandpa.....(GM) just decided to get into the compact truck fray. It's hillairious that phat frumpy old man Company thinks it can compete......Those Silverado interiors, and huge slab exterior sides.....STYLE??????? Nowhere. I drive a new Colorda WT for my company.....not impressed at all. Hard to see out of. I hate the BED! I do like the extended cab. GM only makes the smal block that is any good. (roots back to the '50's) The bean counters destroyed that company years ago. This coming from what was a die hard CHEVROLET MAN. Grandpa, erg GM>>>>>> News to YOU >>> Don't tell your new vehicles customers they have to LIVE that junk your produced and WON'T fix. THAT is the WRONG answer! DUH Grandpa(GM) you would have to pay me to drive a GRANDPA vehicle from you, like my company does....LOL!
Please provide a link for the Santa Fe vid. I have been to the plant a number of times before the pandemic but I have never seen a video.
 
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