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There have been some dealers telling their customers that hybrid vehicles are delayed and won't be available for 6-8 months. Some saying there are thermal issues.

I want everyone to know they are NOT correct.

Hybrid scheduling and production continues each week.

OKTB (okay to buy) is pending EPA testing.

Information straight from the Maverick team.
 

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Like many manufacturers Ford intended and planned on a specific model mix, far more hybrids were ordered than expected which means they don’t have capacity to make them all in a week.

The delays are similar to the Elon Musk effect, it could well take 6 months to get a base hybrid if you are order 1,000,000
have to wait and see,
heck we don’t even have a real EPA sticker yet, so it’s premature to draw any real conclusions .
 

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Just heard from a dealer this morning that "Ford has put a hold on Hybrid build until the 2023 model year, last I heard. so not sure how long till they will be produced."

So lots of misinformation out there.
 

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There have been some dealers telling their customers that hybrid vehicles are delayed and won't be available for 6-8 months. Some saying there are thermal issues.

I want everyone to know they are NOT correct.

Hybrid scheduling and production continues each week.

OKTB (okay to buy) is pending EPA testing.

Information straight from the Maverick team.
Thank you very much! Given that delivery of built vehicles is being held up until OKTB, EPA testing appears to be taking longer than Ford anticipated. Why is that?
 

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Thank you very much! Given that delivery of built vehicles is being held up until OKTB, EPA testing appears to be taking longer than Ford anticipated. Why is that?
No one knows for sure. It's assumed that the EPA decided to do confirmatory testing (something they only do with about 1/6 vehicles). That can take 2-3 months. Sounds like it should be done in the next couple of weeks.
 

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Thank you very much! Given that delivery of built vehicles is being held up until OKTB, EPA testing appears to be taking longer than Ford anticipated. Why is that?
Anyone have any info on why it’s taking the EPA months to certify the MPG ratings on the hybrid ? It’s not like Ford hasn’t built and delivered some to most regions in small numbers to have the press review them.
 

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Anyone have any info on why it’s taking the EPA months to certify the MPG ratings on the hybrid ? It’s not like Ford hasn’t built and delivered some to most regions in small numbers to have the press review them.
technically the EPA has only tested a couple vehicle platforms this year
the rest have all been allowed to do their own testing and submit forms

Like all government agencies the epa is understaffed, over budget and 8 months behind, here in Wisconsin half the cars have a printed LAF from the DMV website in place of the license plate,
I notice several everyday that are going on 2 years old

Given the state of things if the EPA actually does want to do the tests on the Maverick it’s probably going to be a glacial process
 

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A Big Truth coming out of all of this is that Ford management is still populated by people stuck in the 20th century. Ford's corporate buyers were told to secure a supply chain for Maverick production assuming one third of orders would be hybrids and two-thirds would be gassers. They underestimated the public's desire for hybrids by half and overestimated its appetite for turbo-gassers by double. AND they had no plans to build anywhere near the number of E-150 battery powered pickups that the public has reserved.
Too many Ford execs are living in the past. The future is electric. The public knows it. Wall Street knows it. And auto makers who don't accept it will be sold as scrap to the Chinese, who do seem to know it.
 

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Ford's corporate buyers were told to secure a supply chain for Maverick production assuming one third of orders would be hybrids and two-thirds would be gassers. They underestimated the public's desire for hybrids by half and overestimated its appetite for turbo-gassers by double. AND they had no plans to build anywhere near the number of E-150 battery powered pickups that the public has reserved.
Toyota is no different, except they don’t even want to sell a BEV.

The reality is to hit the price point and make profit they have to have the mix they ordered

like Elon Musks base Tesla they only will produce and sell them when they want in the numbers they want
In this case as a compliance car for compliance to current fuel economy targets.

Like the base M3 base Hybrid buyers will need to wait as turbo trucks subsidize the hybrids.

If Ford is able to use this demand to drive up efficiency and drive down cost then we will see more hybrids hit the lot but given the constrained Covid marketplace this could take many years

what I do find amusing is that if Ford needs to limit orders to pull the classic loss leader tactic why don’t they go full on Toyota and ban all customer orders?

That has been Toyota’s tactic to force the market to buy only exactly what they produce, sorry it’s not on the lot we can’t do custom orders
 
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