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what? No SYNC4 OR SYNC3 ??

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things seem to be going downhill….read today on Maverick Truck Club ONLY Lariat will get SYNC3, XL & XLT will get old tech.
Geez…Ihate to spend $30k on a fully loaded XLT vehicle and NOT get a new tech infortainment system….in fact several years old….called My Ford Touch.
I’m thinking Ford is regretting their lower price on this truck. I might have to cancel my order on July 19th and wait another year to see how thing shake out. Now I’m wondering IF we will even have hands free capability…or be able to install apps.
Anyone in this forum shed any light on this new revelation?
Maybe they are going to offer SYNC 4 in next years models as a selling point. :rolleyes:🤬😡
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things seem to be going downhill….read today on Maverick Truck Club ONLY Lariat will get SYNC3, XL & XLT will get old tech.
Geez…Ihate to spend $30k on a fully loaded XLT vehicle and NOT get a new tech infortainment system….in fact several years old….called My Ford Touch.
I’m thinking Ford is regretting their lower price on this truck. I might have to cancel my order on July 19th and wait another year to see how thing shake out. Now I’m wondering IF we will even have hands free capability…or be able to install apps.
Anyone in this forum shed any light on this new revelation?
Maybe they are going to offer SYNC 4 in next years models as a selling point. :rolleyes:🤬😡
You are just now hearing that SYNC 3 is only in the Lariat trim? I have done a poor job with all the tech bulletins and "features by model" posts I have made. BTW, SYNC 3 started in 2016 (5 yrs ago) and gets perfected each year.

Why do you think you will not have hands-free on XL/XLT? Apple Carplay/Android Auto have been clearly advertised as being on ALL models. Both offer hands-free capability. Help me out here.
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things seem to be going downhill….read today on Maverick Truck Club ONLY Lariat will get SYNC3, XL & XLT will get old tech.
Geez…Ihate to spend $30k on a fully loaded XLT vehicle and NOT get a new tech infortainment system….in fact several years old….called My Ford Touch.
I’m thinking Ford is regretting their lower price on this truck. I might have to cancel my order on July 19th and wait another year to see how thing shake out. Now I’m wondering IF we will even have hands free capability…or be able to install apps.
Anyone in this forum shed any light on this new revelation?
Maybe they are going to offer SYNC 4 in next years models as a selling point. :rolleyes:🤬😡
Did you even bother reading this part of the article?
"Thus, Ford chose not to refer to this software as SYNC 3, even though it’s similar in most other ways to the SYNC 3 software present on virtually every new Ford vehicle (that isn’t running the newer SYNC 4)."
I'm guessing not.
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Can someone explain to me the difference between Sync 3 and Apple CarPlay? I just want to be able to use Spotify and see Waze on the screen lol
things seem to be going downhill….read today on Maverick Truck Club ONLY Lariat will get SYNC3, XL & XLT will get old tech.
Geez…Ihate to spend $30k on a fully loaded XLT vehicle and NOT get a new tech infortainment system….in fact several years old….called My Ford Touch.
I’m thinking Ford is regretting their lower price on this truck. I might have to cancel my order on July 19th and wait another year to see how thing shake out. Now I’m wondering IF we will even have hands free capability…or be able to install apps.
Anyone in this forum shed any light on this new revelation?
Maybe they are going to offer SYNC 4 in next years models as a selling point. :rolleyes:🤬😡
You have your facts wrong here. There are multiple posts here that explain the Maverick infotainment system....
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Can someone explain to me the difference between Sync 3 and Apple CarPlay? I just want to be able to use Spotify and see Waze on the screen lol
Sync 3 is the base layer operating system. Without plugging your phone in, this is what the screen shows when you want to change the radio station, connect Bluetooth, etc. It's all on ford.

Carplay/ Android auto are what show up when you plug your phone in. This UI (and features) are entirely on apple/google to maintain, not ford. This is also what allows you to use third party navigation apps (like waze)

All trims have carplay/Android auto. You can buy the base model XL and use waze on your screen.

The main difference is features on the first paragraph of my post here: Lariat gets the (almost) full version of Sync 3, whereas XL and XLT get a slimmed down version.

If your goal is to use Waze and handsfree, you can do it on any trim.
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Someone elsewhere said the XL and XLT screens don't have swipe functionality - you have to click little buttons on the bottom of the CarPlay home screen to get around, whereas the Lariat gets a screen that you can swipe across the menu pages.
I currently have a cigarette lighter adapter to get bluetooth to my radio in Jeep. I'm not upset at all.
I wish wireless Android Auto/Car Play were supported on Sync 3. Especially with the wireless charging pad on the Lariat, I'm not looking forward to having to plug my phone in to use the advanced features.
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You can put a tape deck in it and I really wouldn’t care. Edit. I did look at the base F150 and it comes with sync 4. Still dont care but seems Ford did go cheap on this for the Maverick.
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Sync 3 i feel has become obsolete and is now a useless addon. It's functions were android auto/apple carplay and bluetooth - which are standard. What are the other additions 911 assist? Useless.

Sync 4 is a better computer I believe and i believe has wireless ability connect to android/apple phones. If true, that is actually worth something.

Instead of fretting about Ford sync 3, plug in an aftermarket wireless android auto/apple carplay dongle (from Rostra or wherever). So you step in, no plugging in, boom android/apple auto ready to go. When you do want to plug in your phone get the correct watt/amp charger for your phones for high speed charging.
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Sync 3 i feel has become obsolete and is now a useless addon. It's functions were android auto/apple carplay and bluetooth - which are standard. What are the other additions 911 assist? Useless.

Sync 4 is a better computer I believe and i believe has wireless ability connect to android/apple phones. If true, that is actually worth something.
Calling SYNC 3 a "useless addon" is certainly your perogative. As someone who works with both SYNC versions every day, we can agree to disagree. SYNC 3 is stable, reliable, solid, etc.... On some SYNC 3 vehicles you can use the SYNC voice commands to change radio stations, climate controls, etc... It is the perfect option on an entry level vehicle.

SYNC 4, I agree, has much more to offer. It offers wireless CarPlay/Android Auto, over-the-air updates, navigation updated constantly and much more computing power. But check out the 2021 F-150 forums and you will see the wireless features are experiencing growing pains. It's not quite ready for prime-time. Plus.... it would cost way, WAY more to have standard in the Maverick.
Calling SYNC 3 a "useless addon" is certainly your perogative. As someone who works with both SYNC versions every day, we can agree to disagree. SYNC 3 is stable, reliable, solid, etc.... On some SYNC 3 vehicles you can use the SYNC voice commands to change radio stations, climate controls, etc... It is the perfect option on an entry level vehicle.

SYNC 4, I agree, has much more to offer. It offers wireless CarPlay/Android Auto, over-the-air updates, navigation updated constantly and much more computing power. But check out the 2021 F-150 forums and you will see the wireless features are experiencing growing pains. It's not quite ready for prime-time. Plus.... it would cost way, WAY more to have standard in the Maverick.
Do you believe Android Auto/Apple Carplay connectivity will be unstable compared to Sync 3? I'd really like to know.

Perhaps it is just my preference. I use Android auto with a wireless dongle for everything. Read my text messages, calls, navigation - all of which I have found to be better than using Sync 3 (in my 2019 Ranger XLT).
Do you believe Android Auto/Apple Carplay connectivity will be unstable compared to Sync 3? I'd really like to know.

Perhaps it is just my preference. I use Android auto with a wireless dongle for everything. Read my text messages, calls, navigation - all of which I have found to be better than using Sync 3 (in my 2019 Ranger XLT).
I'm seeing it with some SYNC 4 customers- not all. I know it will improve with time, as SYNC 4 is a huuuge step ahead of SYNC 3. The over-the-air updates for v4 is a game-changer, in my opinion. To have not just software, but mechanical updates done while your vehicle is in your carport, is very cool.
I think waiting just two years if you can . Will make a big difference because of the whole covid thing thats going on right now .
The over-the-air updates for v4 is a game-changer, in my opinion. To have not just software, but mechanical updates done while your vehicle is in your carport, is very cool.
Can you explain to me how one can get actual, physical, mechanical updates done to the vehicle online, in my carport? Does this also include oil changes if I pay an extra subscription fee?
Can you explain to me how one can get actual, physical, mechanical updates done to the vehicle online, in my carport? Does this also include oil changes if I pay an extra subscription fee?
Oil changes would be cool, but we're not there yet. ;-) Bluecruise, for example, is a Level 2 advanced driving assistance system (ADAS) available on the 2021 F-150 (and Mach-E). The hardware is installed on some higher-level trims, but will not be activated until later this year. Supposedly, a software download will turn the feature "on" and allow a quasi-self driving experience.

The on-board modem can also detect an issue and (if available) receive an update to correct it- saving you a trip to the dealership. Obviously, it can't replace your brakes but the tech is making it easier to diagnose/fix issues that currently require a trip to the dealership for them to hook up their computers to diagnose.
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Oil changes would be cool, but we're not there yet. ;-) Bluecruise, for example, is a Level 2 advanced driving assistance system (ADAS) available on the 2021 F-150 (and Mach-E). The hardware is installed on some higher-level trims, but will not be activated until later this year. Supposedly, a software download will turn the feature "on" and allow a quasi-self driving experience.

The on-board modem can also detect an issue and (if available) receive an update to correct it- saving you a trip to the dealership. Obviously, it can't replace your brakes but the tech is making it easier to diagnose/fix issues that currently require a trip to the dealership for them to hook up their computers to diagnose.
That's what I was implying 😉 There are no "mechanical" updates yet. All software updates, but ones that do definitely affect the mechanical functions of the vehicle.
But (big 'but') when cars are fully autonomous, they could potentially drive themselves to the shop for service while you do whatever.
I do wonder what kind of insurance liability that would be? If the car got into an accident while driving itself in for warranty repair? That alone could kill the whole idea.
Instead of fretting about Ford sync 3, plug in an aftermarket wireless android auto/apple carplay dongle (from Rostra or wherever). So you step in, no plugging in, boom android/apple auto ready to go. When you do want to plug in your phone get the correct watt/amp charger for your phones for high speed charging.
Better yet, and what I imagine many owners will do a couple years down the road if not sooner, is to simply yank out the stock headunit, resell it, and put in an Android head unit. They are becoming increasingly inexpensive, and you don't need to deal with plugging in a phone or wireless connectivity issues when the unit itself is already running Android operating system and can pull up your Waze and music apps natively.

I'm sure they will be hitting the market shortly with kits that will use the full what appears to be 10" of space instead of just 8" with the cubby on the side.
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If u have a spare phone with cracked screen but still working you could hide permanently in the mav and "simulate" a native navigation system.
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